2023 PDGA Amateur Masters Disc Golf World Championships Presented by MVP Disc Sports

Curtis Shriver

When I need to request a refund/drop, I go to the "players" tab and it shows my registration. On that page I have a "withdraw" link. I just click it and follow the prompts. I've never had an issue getting a refund.

Scott Homberg

Curtis never drops, he Wins! :{)

Tammy Schreiber

Thanks Curtis, but when I go to player tab my name is in black and I can't click on it. SO frustrated!

Curtis Shriver

Hmmm, I've never heard of that. Hopefully it'll all get worked out.

Kevin Drossel

Name is always black. That's normal. You click on the EDIT or WITHDRAW below the black name.

Andrew Sweeton

Tammy - I corrected the email address for your registration and resent your confirmation.

Bill Block

Wouldn’t say they are cart friendly, but they’re cart possible. People use carts on the courses but there are a few places where it could be tricky (not impossible) to naviigate.

Angie Taylor

Thank you Bill! I will get my bag primed up for my caddy.

Corie Anderson

Thank you for asking! I didn't even think to ask and this certainly saves room in the van!

Rick Bevel

Yes! You can do this online as I found recently. On the PDGA event page click on verified in the blue bar at the top of your division. It'll redirect you to another page where there is a link to submit your info. When I did this a couple weeks ago it was done same day.

Kevin Drossel

I did it too a while back. Wondering if it matters or if players could simply ignore it. It would seem that it would be required as some point or there is no real purpose in collecting that data.

Scott Taylor

The other option, and we got an email about it recently, is at check-in they will ask for your ID.

Kevin Drossel

That makes sense. It is required that you prove who you are and birthday. Early or at the event.

Todd Lion

Identification must be verified prior to the start of play. We will have staff on site to check IDs during check-in, or you can upload appropriate ID at the link on this page: https://www.pdga.com/policy/identity-verification

ROBERT WATSON

I don't think it works that way.

Scott Taylor

Following your logic, shouldn't any extra spots (if they exist) got to MA80 and MA70 first?

Jacquelyn Rieser

I agree extra spots should go oldest to youngest 100%

Bill Block

NAU baskets will be replaced with Discatchers. McPherson has and will have Mach Vs for worlds.

Bill Block

Black Barts is an RV park across the street from Little America. There’s a campground at Fort Tuthill just a short stroll to the course.

Brenda Wiltgen

Both of those are booked, but thanks for responding!!!

chad lacey

if you can dry camp or boondock camp. pilot truck stop in bellemont about 10 miles west of flagstaff, also just north of flagstaff on the road to snowbowl is dispersed forest service/blm land

Alan Amos

Village Park is a new RV park just outside of Flagstaff and about 15min away from the courses.

Brenda Wiltgen

Thanks!

Sam Levenberg

It would be awesome if the MA60 numbers matched those of MA55 and MA50 - 76 players instead of 52

Patrick Graziani

C pool will not have any additional spots added to the 160 available even if we do start tee times earlier in the day. We will continue to consider adjustments within the pool to maximize the available space, but at this time additional changes are unlikely. It is a unfortunate that Snowbowl is out ... more

C pool will not have any additional spots added to the 160 available even if we do start tee times earlier in the day. We will continue to consider adjustments within the pool to maximize the available space, but at this time additional changes are unlikely. It is a unfortunate that Snowbowl is out of the mix this year due to the extended ski season and record snowfalls. We feel that it is in the best interests of the event and participants to avoid the course due to the short time available to get it in championship condition for the event.

Andrew Sweeton

Yes, many options have been considered, but we have already made the adjustments that were possible to get more players in. It is unlikely that we can do more. Note the C Pool is already at 160 players, and there are other considerations to worry about with a player increase like recovery time for ... more

Yes, many options have been considered, but we have already made the adjustments that were possible to get more players in. It is unlikely that we can do more. Note the C Pool is already at 160 players, and there are other considerations to worry about with a player increase like recovery time for dangerous weather, staffing, and limitations on other contractual items such as seating, food and beverage, and player packs. Yes, it is a shame that Snowbowl couldn't be included as was originally planned.

Bill Block

Those staying at Little America can park in their lot. We’re renting additional parking space for competitors not staying at Little America and spectators to use.

Eric Graff

I guess I should have worded that better. Will they be checking for those that are alowed to park or will it becoume a free for all? Just want to make sure I have a place to park when I am done with my rounds in the 55+ class..

Bill Block

There will be somebody directing people not staying at LA to the extra parking. I suspect that some people will slip through the cracks but hopefully not too many.

Eric Graff

thnx

Jacquelyn Rieser

Agreed for you 100%

Will Plein

Just a thought, I am sure much thought is going into making this an memorial event. 700am 4 710am 4 720am 4 730am 4 740am 4 750am 4 equals 24 players

Will Plein

Thanks Todd, Looking forward!! Thanks for all the hard work!

Brenda Wiltgen

Thank you for looking at this!

Sam Levenberg

Hoping MA60 gets some of this love. Thanks

Will Plein

Sam much love please!!

LUIS MENDEZ

Yes, MA 65 love too.

Daryl Huschka

Thank you so very much for all your hard work

Peter Ludlam

Thanks for doing this!

Tracey McAuley

Thanks for doing this, hopefully MA55 will add more.

Rich Lang

MA55 could use a few spots IMHO

jackson beals

Same with MA50

Scott Taylor

MA50 and MA55 are unlikely to get adjusted. Since they are the only two divisions in the pool, how would you make an adjustment?

jackson beals

I would say add more tee times. The sun rises at 5:20 am and sets 7:43 pm that time of year in Flagstaff. 14 hours and 23 minutes of daylight. Right now there are only 6 hours and 20 minutes out of tee times. There is room for more. The staff has stated some reasons for not adding more but I don ... more

I would say add more tee times. The sun rises at 5:20 am and sets 7:43 pm that time of year in Flagstaff. 14 hours and 23 minutes of daylight. Right now there are only 6 hours and 20 minutes out of tee times. There is room for more. The staff has stated some reasons for not adding more but I don't think the reasons outweigh not giving more age protected qualified players the chance to compete at World's.

Scott Taylor

Actually, I agree with leaving time to adjust for weather delays and other delays that are out of their control. Having been to a few GBO and DDO events, and losing rounds to bad weather, I fully support keeping the daily schedule as flexible as possible,

Tracey McAuley

Hopefully more MA55 spots open up!

Caton Arnold

Gonna need some ppls to drop out for me pls

Tracey McAuley

That's the way, keep dropping please.

Kevin Evers

I started out WL # 31 in MA40…. Now I’m WL#6 and am booking flights….. with 23 spots open currently for all in the tournament

Tracey McAuley

Curious when they will let us know? Day of, lol.

David Wofford

Please open at least 5 more spots in MA 65. These guys are old and may not see another tournament!

Patrick Graziani

We are currently evaluating the division caps within pools to determine available spots.

Brenda Wiltgen

THANK YOU!!! :)

Andrew Sweeton

We are looking at it, but note that it isn't just about the number of players within a pool, it's also the number of playing groups within the pool. So for example you can't take one player away from each of four divisions and add them to another division as that then adds an extra playing group.

Andrew Sweeton

Scott - currently there is not a deadline, but we will keep pushing him to make a decision ASAP. Next year we will add a deadline for such a situation written into the Worlds registration schedules.

Greg James

Good question . Curious also.

Bill Block

I've never used either before but we do have Uber/Lyft. We also have taxi services but I've only used them from the airport to home. We've been in discussions with Mountain Line, local mass transit, about running special routes from the host hotel to courses but current staffing shortages is making that difficult.

Chris Dierkens

When someone drops the TD will process the waitlist and the next in will get an email letting them know they’re in.

Andrew Sweeton

See the event page: https://www.pdga.com/tour/event/69181

Andrew Sweeton

As far as invites go, there is no easy way I'd have to go digging.

Andrew Sweeton

46 invites to Am Masters for Oregon

Harry Tucker

Only 3 Oregon am50 had points to get into this

Andrew Sweeton

No, there were ten players from Oregon invited to MA50.

Harry Tucker

Really ?? Like what am I missing I'm 1 of them and I know the other 2 1 is alrdy in am55 and other is on the waitlist for am55.

Harry Tucker

Oh your counting ma2 and ma3 points ... not actual masters points ok

Andrew Sweeton

Of the ten, eight players earned an MA50 invite as their Primary Division invite using all of their amateur points, 2 players earned a Secondary Worlds invite to MA50 along with their MA55 Primary invite as they had also met the points requirement for MA50 while actually playing in MA50.

Andrew Sweeton

And one of the eight also earned an MA40 secondary invite as they 1,392 points while actually playing in MA40.

Harry Tucker

You currently have 2 am55 guys from Oregon 1 already in and the other on waitlist #3. 1 am50 guy on waitlist #7 ;-) but 27 guys deep on am50 waitlist.. pretty sure no other am50 guys are coming . . . Just an observation

Harry Tucker

From Oregon that is

Andrew Sweeton

You could be correct, but I was answering the question about those who were invited, not those who actually registered.

Malum Nothis

MA50 Oregon here. 3 players in my division earned a point level invitation. No others did. I would very much like to learn more about how invites work. Could you explain where the other invites come from? How do you reach 10? Does it work sort of like at large bids from Canada? So many or such a percentage get invites? Thanks in advance...

Andrew Sweeton

Sorry, but you are wrong. 46 players from Oregon were invited to Amateur Masters Worlds. Of those 46 players, 10 were invited to MA50. As I said before, 8 players had enough total amateur points to receive their MA50 Primary Worlds invite and another two MA55 players had earned enough points actually playing in MA50 to receive a secondary invite for MA50. 8 + 2 = 10

Andrew Sweeton

Note that all 10 of the invited players earned their MA50 invite based on the points that they had earned during 2022, none of the invites were based on some other criteria.

Malum Nothis

The link: https://www.pdga.com/players/stats?Year=2022&player_Class=All&Gender=All&Bracket=MA50&continent=All&Country=All&StateProv=OR

Malum Nothis

Only three MA50 players from Oregon earned points. Proof in the official PDGA records at the link above. Always check your sources players. Don't be misinformed. I asked for an explanation and got an unverified claim. I guess clarity isn't happening so I'm giving up on this one. Enjoy your back & forth.

Rick Bevel

The thing is all amateur points go towards a world invite. You can play in any amateur division to aquire those points. It does not have to be just in MA50 to get a MA50 invite.. MA1, MA2, MA40, MA50 are all amateur points that count. What division you play to earn these points is up to the player. ... more

The thing is all amateur points go towards a world invite. You can play in any amateur division to aquire those points. It does not have to be just in MA50 to get a MA50 invite.. MA1, MA2, MA40, MA50 are all amateur points that count. What division you play to earn these points is up to the player. There are other players outside of those three who have played and.earned the points in different divisions. . Your link only shows the points earned in the division you selected.. I do understand the confusion though, it took me a long time to understand it as well. Take care!!

Andrew Sweeton

Malum - Sorry to say, but again, you are wrong. If you are using that screen to base your assertions on, you should know that it is a limited data set only showing participation in MA50, which is not what Worlds invites are based on. I'd suggest reading the invitation criteria to understand h ... more

Malum - Sorry to say, but again, you are wrong. If you are using that screen to base your assertions on, you should know that it is a limited data set only showing participation in MA50, which is not what Worlds invites are based on. I'd suggest reading the invitation criteria to understand how worlds invites actually work. Since I'm the person who calculates and posts all of the Worlds invites, you can take me at my word when I say 10 players from Oregon earned an MA50 invite based on points..

Andrew Sweeton

Adam Rud, Lloyd Bledsoe, Ty Eddington, Brian Pond, Malum Nothis Thomson, Marc Haerling, Blake Reed, Adrian Thomas-Eikmann, Allen Heinly, Harry Tucker

Andrew Sweeton

Yup, what Rick said.

Scott Taylor

It's too bad there isn't a way to sort for this. But it is correct, it's total points earned, not just in the division you are qualifying for.

Harry Tucker

Is Worlds is it an age protected event ? I'm just trying to have a better understanding being a newer player and looking at stats figuring out whats what. I thought getting invites to age protected events ment that only age protected points were allowed. Thanks for clarifying that. For an even ... more

Is Worlds is it an age protected event ? I'm just trying to have a better understanding being a newer player and looking at stats figuring out whats what. I thought getting invites to age protected events ment that only age protected points were allowed. Thanks for clarifying that. For an event like this there should be some sort of regional event per state that ensures competitive Players representing there state get in.

Malum Nothis

Yo. Mr.Aarogant: The question was how many MA50 players earned invites. Not how many other divisions had players qualify. This was our point all along and a perfect example of why players get frustrated with the PDGA. They don't listen, rush to answer and call players wrong without asking for c ... more

Yo. Mr.Aarogant: The question was how many MA50 players earned invites. Not how many other divisions had players qualify. This was our point all along and a perfect example of why players get frustrated with the PDGA. They don't listen, rush to answer and call players wrong without asking for clarity and missynderstanding the question. Not only that but if the PDGA page isn't accurate doesn't that sort of undermine your position as a trustworthy source given your position?

Malum Nothis

Treat players with respect. Listen and read the actual questions. Quit calling people wrong as it makes you look foolish and unprofessional. This is where I'm at at this point...I'm finally frustrated with this. I'm just going to ask where our Danner Boot voucher is from last year ... more

Treat players with respect. Listen and read the actual questions. Quit calling people wrong as it makes you look foolish and unprofessional. This is where I'm at at this point...I'm finally frustrated with this. I'm just going to ask where our Danner Boot voucher is from last year's Portland Open. As a pdga guy maybe you can get us a straight answer on that. Jeff Spring has blown off answering for a year so what's up?

Allen Risley

Malum - I suggest that you thoroughly read the 2023 PDGA Masters Worlds Invitation to Register Criteria Document (https://www.pdga.com/files/2023_masters_worlds_pro_amateur_-_invitation_to_register_criteria_v6.pdf) and the February 20, 2022 PDGA website article titled "How to Qualify: PDGA Am M ... more

Malum - I suggest that you thoroughly read the 2023 PDGA Masters Worlds Invitation to Register Criteria Document (https://www.pdga.com/files/2023_masters_worlds_pro_amateur_-_invitation_to_register_criteria_v6.pdf) and the February 20, 2022 PDGA website article titled "How to Qualify: PDGA Am Masters Worlds Invite" that includes a very helpful infographic showing how ALL Amateur points earned by a player are used to determine eligibility (https://www.pdga.com/news/how-qualify-pdga-am-masters-worlds-invite). You are either misunderstanding or misrepresenting the information you found via the PDGA Player Stats page. The search you executed will show you the total number of points that players from Oregon earned playing in MA50, but that's not the criteria used for 2023 MA50 Worlds invitations. Invitations for Amateur age-protected divisions at 2023 PDGA Worlds is based on ALL Amateur points earned by a player, so points earned in MA50, MA40, MA1/2/3 can all be used to qualify.

Allen Risley

And why do these other division's points count? Because some players live in areas where their "home division" (based on their age) is not often offered or the field sizes are so small that they cannot accrue enough points playing in their home division. I found it hard to collect t ... more

And why do these other division's points count? Because some players live in areas where their "home division" (based on their age) is not often offered or the field sizes are so small that they cannot accrue enough points playing in their home division. I found it hard to collect the 300 points needed to qualify for MA60, even with a win and 7 podium finishes in MA60, because of small field sizes and low multipliers. So I played in MA3 in one event to put me over the top. There are many other Amateur age-protected players who do the same thing.

John Kimball

Hey Harry, Congrats again on your St. Patrick's win. It was an honor and pleasure to share a round with you and also watch your game perk up when the rain rolled in. Felt like home for you! Looks like you may be satisfied with the answers to your questions above. Here's my thoughts on the ... more

Hey Harry, Congrats again on your St. Patrick's win. It was an honor and pleasure to share a round with you and also watch your game perk up when the rain rolled in. Felt like home for you! Looks like you may be satisfied with the answers to your questions above. Here's my thoughts on the back and forth between Malum and Andrew. Technically they're both right. Malum is correct in using the PDGA statistical data page that shows only 3 MA50 players with the 500 points required for an invitation, yet it seems he didn't want to accept Andrew's or Rick's answer about the criteria for receiving an invite. Andrew is correct with the ten players receiving invites to play in the MA50 division, yet maybe should not have said, "you are wrong." Maybe should have started with, "Where does your 3 player info come from?" For my own purposes, I researched all 10 players from Oregon that received an invite to play in the MA50 division. The short of it is, if my research is correct, Malum, Brian and Harry are the three players on the PDGA statistical data page that Malum referenced. The other seven earned the necessary 500 pts. playing in MA1, MA2, MA40, & MA50. Malum, Brian and Harry are the only names that I see on Disc Golf Scene. Harry is #6 on the MA50 wait list. Malum and Brian are registered to play in the MA55 division. This falls in line with what Allen Risley just posted about collecting points to qualify for Worlds. As an older player with other parts of life to take care of, I play very few tournaments. Therefore, I tend to play in younger divisions, with a larger field, to get more points. And there are not many tournaments that have the 5 year increment divisions.

Harry Tucker

Wow John!! Hello Thanks for the kind words !! I had such a good time with you guys down there ! It was my plan all along to bring the rain with me ;-) grin ????

Andrew Sweeton

Robin - We do get drops each year, but how many from any particular division, is pretty impossible to predict. Players drop for all kinds of reasons from "I got injured" to "I forgot to talk to my spouse" to "Turns out I can't get off work". In rare occurrences we ... more

Robin - We do get drops each year, but how many from any particular division, is pretty impossible to predict. Players drop for all kinds of reasons from "I got injured" to "I forgot to talk to my spouse" to "Turns out I can't get off work". In rare occurrences we've seen 3 or 4 drop at one time because they were traveling together and a transmission blew in the van they planned to travel in. Sorry I can't give you a definitive answer. Note that if you do get in you will receive an email from DGS alerting you to that and asking you to check your registration.

Andrew Sweeton

Sorry, I'm not aware of anything to do with banquet tickets for Masters Worlds, it's not part of registration. I know Amateur and Junior Worlds have banquet tickets. Bill - is there anything concerning banquet tickets for Master Worlds?

John Birkrem

https://www.discgolfscene.com/tournaments/Banquet_Tickets_for_2023_PDGA_Masters_Disc_Golf_World_Championships

Andrew Sweeton

JB - you are the man!

Bill Block

Banquet is open to all players although we are limited by space.