2023 PDGA Amateur Masters Disc Golf World Championships Presented by MVP Disc Sports
Singles tournament · Tue-Sat, Jul 11-15, 2023Jul 2023 · Flagstaff, AZ
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Andrew Sweeton
Apr 23, 2023
See the event page: https://www.pdga.com/tour/event/69181
Andrew Sweeton
Apr 23, 2023
As far as invites go, there is no easy way I'd have to go digging.
Andrew Sweeton
Apr 23, 2023
46 invites to Am Masters for Oregon
Harry Tucker
Apr 24, 2023
Only 3 Oregon am50 had points to get into this
Andrew Sweeton
Apr 24, 2023
No, there were ten players from Oregon invited to MA50.
Harry Tucker
Apr 24, 2023
Really ?? Like what am I missing I'm 1 of them and I know the other 2 1 is alrdy in am55 and other is on the waitlist for am55.
Harry Tucker
Apr 24, 2023
Oh your counting ma2 and ma3 points ... not actual masters points ok
Andrew Sweeton
Apr 24, 2023
Of the ten, eight players earned an MA50 invite as their Primary Division invite using all of their ...
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Of the ten, eight players earned an MA50 invite as their Primary Division invite using all of their amateur points, 2 players earned a Secondary Worlds invite to MA50 along with their MA55 Primary invite as they had also met the points requirement for MA50 while actually playing in MA50.
Andrew Sweeton
Apr 24, 2023
And one of the eight also earned an MA40 secondary invite as they 1,392 points while actually playing in MA40.
Harry Tucker
Apr 24, 2023
You currently have 2 am55 guys from Oregon 1 already in and the other on waitlist #3. 1 am50 guy o ...
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You currently have 2 am55 guys from Oregon 1 already in and the other on waitlist #3. 1 am50 guy on waitlist #7 ;-) but 27 guys deep on am50 waitlist.. pretty sure no other am50 guys are coming . . . Just an observation
Harry Tucker
Apr 24, 2023
From Oregon that is
Andrew Sweeton
Apr 24, 2023
You could be correct, but I was answering the question about those who were invited, not those who actually registered.
Malum Nothis
Apr 24, 2023
MA50 Oregon here. 3 players in my division earned a point level invitation. No others did. I would v ...
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MA50 Oregon here. 3 players in my division earned a point level invitation. No others did. I would very much like to learn more about how invites work. Could you explain where the other invites come from? How do you reach 10? Does it work sort of like at large bids from Canada? So many or such a percentage get invites? Thanks in advance...
Andrew Sweeton
Apr 25, 2023
Sorry, but you are wrong. 46 players from Oregon were invited to Amateur Masters Worlds. Of those ...
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Sorry, but you are wrong. 46 players from Oregon were invited to Amateur Masters Worlds. Of those 46 players, 10 were invited to MA50. As I said before, 8 players had enough total amateur points to receive their MA50 Primary Worlds invite and another two MA55 players had earned enough points actually playing in MA50 to receive a secondary invite for MA50. 8 + 2 = 10
Andrew Sweeton
Apr 25, 2023
Note that all 10 of the invited players earned their MA50 invite based on the points that they had earned during 2022, none of the invites were based on some other criteria.
Malum Nothis
Apr 25, 2023
The link: https://www.pdga.com/players/stats?Year=2022&player_Class=All&Gender=All&Bracket=MA50&continent=All&Country=All&StateProv=OR
Malum Nothis
Apr 25, 2023
Only three MA50 players from Oregon earned points. Proof in the official PDGA records at the link ab ...
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Only three MA50 players from Oregon earned points. Proof in the official PDGA records at the link above. Always check your sources players. Don't be misinformed. I asked for an explanation and got an unverified claim. I guess clarity isn't happening so I'm giving up on this one. Enjoy your back & forth.
Rick Bevel
Apr 25, 2023
The thing is all amateur points go towards a world invite. You can play in any amateur division to a ...
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The thing is all amateur points go towards a world invite. You can play in any amateur division to aquire those points. It does not have to be just in MA50 to get a MA50 invite.. MA1, MA2, MA40, MA50 are all amateur points that count. What division you play to earn these points is up to the player. There are other players outside of those three who have played and.earned the points in different divisions. . Your link only shows the points earned in the division you selected.. I do understand the confusion though, it took me a long time to understand it as well. Take care!!
Andrew Sweeton
Apr 25, 2023
Malum - Sorry to say, but again, you are wrong. If you are using that screen to base your assertion ...
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Malum - Sorry to say, but again, you are wrong. If you are using that screen to base your assertions on, you should know that it is a limited data set only showing participation in MA50, which is not what Worlds invites are based on. I'd suggest reading the invitation criteria to understand how worlds invites actually work. Since I'm the person who calculates and posts all of the Worlds invites, you can take me at my word when I say 10 players from Oregon earned an MA50 invite based on points..
Andrew Sweeton
Apr 25, 2023
Adam Rud, Lloyd Bledsoe, Ty Eddington, Brian Pond, Malum Nothis Thomson, Marc Haerling, Blake Reed, Adrian Thomas-Eikmann, Allen Heinly, Harry Tucker
Andrew Sweeton
Apr 25, 2023
Yup, what Rick said.
Scott Taylor
Apr 25, 2023
It's too bad there isn't a way to sort for this. But it is correct, it's total points earned, not just in the division you are qualifying for.
Harry Tucker
Apr 25, 2023
Is Worlds is it an age protected event ? I'm just trying to have a better understanding being a newe ...
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Is Worlds is it an age protected event ? I'm just trying to have a better understanding being a newer player and looking at stats figuring out whats what. I thought getting invites to age protected events ment that only age protected points were allowed. Thanks for clarifying that. For an event like this there should be some sort of regional event per state that ensures competitive Players representing there state get in.
Malum Nothis
Apr 25, 2023
Yo. Mr.Aarogant: The question was how many MA50 players earned invites. Not how many other divisions ...
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Yo. Mr.Aarogant: The question was how many MA50 players earned invites. Not how many other divisions had players qualify. This was our point all along and a perfect example of why players get frustrated with the PDGA. They don't listen, rush to answer and call players wrong without asking for clarity and missynderstanding the question. Not only that but if the PDGA page isn't accurate doesn't that sort of undermine your position as a trustworthy source given your position?
Malum Nothis
Apr 25, 2023
Treat players with respect. Listen and read the actual questions. Quit calling people wrong as it ma ...
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Treat players with respect. Listen and read the actual questions. Quit calling people wrong as it makes you look foolish and unprofessional. This is where I'm at at this point...I'm finally frustrated with this. I'm just going to ask where our Danner Boot voucher is from last year's Portland Open. As a pdga guy maybe you can get us a straight answer on that. Jeff Spring has blown off answering for a year so what's up?
Allen Risley
Apr 26, 2023
Malum - I suggest that you thoroughly read the 2023 PDGA Masters Worlds Invitation to Register Crite ...
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Malum - I suggest that you thoroughly read the 2023 PDGA Masters Worlds Invitation to Register Criteria Document (https://www.pdga.com/files/2023_masters_worlds_pro_amateur_-_invitation_to_register_criteria_v6.pdf) and the February 20, 2022 PDGA website article titled "How to Qualify: PDGA Am Masters Worlds Invite" that includes a very helpful infographic showing how ALL Amateur points earned by a player are used to determine eligibility (https://www.pdga.com/news/how-qualify-pdga-am-masters-worlds-invite). You are either misunderstanding or misrepresenting the information you found via the PDGA Player Stats page. The search you executed will show you the total number of points that players from Oregon earned playing in MA50, but that's not the criteria used for 2023 MA50 Worlds invitations. Invitations for Amateur age-protected divisions at 2023 PDGA Worlds is based on ALL Amateur points earned by a player, so points earned in MA50, MA40, MA1/2/3 can all be used to qualify.
Allen Risley
Apr 26, 2023
And why do these other division's points count? Because some players live in areas where their "hom ...
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And why do these other division's points count? Because some players live in areas where their "home division" (based on their age) is not often offered or the field sizes are so small that they cannot accrue enough points playing in their home division. I found it hard to collect the 300 points needed to qualify for MA60, even with a win and 7 podium finishes in MA60, because of small field sizes and low multipliers. So I played in MA3 in one event to put me over the top. There are many other Amateur age-protected players who do the same thing.
John Kimball
Apr 26, 2023
Hey Harry, Congrats again on your St. Patrick's win. It was an honor and pleasure to share a round w ...
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Hey Harry, Congrats again on your St. Patrick's win. It was an honor and pleasure to share a round with you and also watch your game perk up when the rain rolled in. Felt like home for you! Looks like you may be satisfied with the answers to your questions above. Here's my thoughts on the back and forth between Malum and Andrew. Technically they're both right. Malum is correct in using the PDGA statistical data page that shows only 3 MA50 players with the 500 points required for an invitation, yet it seems he didn't want to accept Andrew's or Rick's answer about the criteria for receiving an invite. Andrew is correct with the ten players receiving invites to play in the MA50 division, yet maybe should not have said, "you are wrong." Maybe should have started with, "Where does your 3 player info come from?" For my own purposes, I researched all 10 players from Oregon that received an invite to play in the MA50 division. The short of it is, if my research is correct, Malum, Brian and Harry are the three players on the PDGA statistical data page that Malum referenced. The other seven earned the necessary 500 pts. playing in MA1, MA2, MA40, & MA50. Malum, Brian and Harry are the only names that I see on Disc Golf Scene. Harry is #6 on the MA50 wait list. Malum and Brian are registered to play in the MA55 division. This falls in line with what Allen Risley just posted about collecting points to qualify for Worlds. As an older player with other parts of life to take care of, I play very few tournaments. Therefore, I tend to play in younger divisions, with a larger field, to get more points. And there are not many tournaments that have the 5 year increment divisions.
Harry Tucker
Apr 26, 2023
Wow John!! Hello Thanks for the kind words !! I had such a good time with you guys down there ! It was my plan all along to bring the rain with me ;-) grin ????