MCCG Indoor Putting 2010-11 @ Sunnybrook

Jay B    April 4, 2011 at 6:51pm

sweet! let me know if it happens ill be there

John Minicuci    April 4, 2011 at 6:05pm

Just got back in own early this morning.
I'll call Sunnybrook and see if we can pop in there for some informal putting, maybe some dirty dollas' or something...

John Minicuci    March 31, 2011 at 12:40am

Sunnybrook Indoor Putting League is over. I will post the results in the News section either from or after Bowling Green.

Thank you to everyone for showing up, Bernie, Mike Henry, Brandon Butler, and Shawn for helping align the pools every week, and to Shawn for creating our Excel score sheet. Many people tell me how cool it is to be able to do this indoors all Winter.

See you on the courses!
John

John Minicuci    February 9, 2011 at 9:20am

Brooke, tell me who to contact over there @ Ypsi Arbor Bowl and I'll make a call or two.
Who knows, maybe a travel league?

Mike Rabin, your point was well taken about the MIA partner and sometimes being the example is the way to a better product. I'm sorry it happened to you or anybody. I have lived through a partner who left before the end was over too, and I know there were a few others as well. Thankfully, yours just happened to be one game and not a DQ for the night from the pl ... more

Brooke, tell me who to contact over there @ Ypsi Arbor Bowl and I'll make a call or two.
Who knows, maybe a travel league?

Mike Rabin, your point was well taken about the MIA partner and sometimes being the example is the way to a better product. I'm sorry it happened to you or anybody. I have lived through a partner who left before the end was over too, and I know there were a few others as well. Thankfully, yours just happened to be one game and not a DQ for the night from the playoffs like the others were. So far we have made a lot of adjustments along the way in many areas and even tho sometimes the attempts were a step backwards, they were only minor setbacks and we have the ability to adjust for the next week. I think allowing you, or anyone who gets put in the same place, to play the full game was a good solid solution that we will implement if it ever happens again.

Through suggestions from the past, one of the other things we have tried to do was to make the A Pool bigger. The way to do this is to move B players into the C Pool to make the groups equal. When we move some B Pool players down, they do make the A pool stronger. Last night the A pool won 4 cashing spots while the B pool saw 3 cashing spots which brings us to 25 A Pool, 20 B Pool winners the past 5 weeks.

I did a quick average of the past 2 weeks on the margin of victory and believe it or not, the numbers averaged 10.24. This was a quick calculation so I'll have to relook at the numbers tomorrow when I am a little more awake.

Amateur Hour    February 8, 2011 at 6:09am

Joe G is the best winter player I know. Only if he could transition that into spring/summer/fall.

Brooke Plantz    February 8, 2011 at 2:54am

I can feel the love!!

mike Rabin    February 8, 2011 at 2:30am

yes i agree the eastside is great move out here :) whenever u make the drive i know id give up my spot to see u show

Brooke Plantz    February 8, 2011 at 2:24am

Whats not fair is how far away this is from my house!!! Could you please move to Ypsi Arbor Bowl. ;)

mike Rabin    February 8, 2011 at 2:19am

this works for alot of sports but disc golf is still a growing sport you dont want to discourage anyone from playing i was clueless in this sport 4 yrs ago but found a way and yes the first couple years alot of donating to learn, but when every1 feels they have a chance it gets more players playing... at the same time theres some people who come because of friends/ boyfriends and fun and social and then get a pro partner and they dont care to put time in to learn how to really play or putt. im n ... more

this works for alot of sports but disc golf is still a growing sport you dont want to discourage anyone from playing i was clueless in this sport 4 yrs ago but found a way and yes the first couple years alot of donating to learn, but when every1 feels they have a chance it gets more players playing... at the same time theres some people who come because of friends/ boyfriends and fun and social and then get a pro partner and they dont care to put time in to learn how to really play or putt. im never upset to get a new player who puts in a little time and effort... for example alex muton, hes still new but i see week from week improvment and that shows me alot, i dont see any hunger is some, and when marty or henry is willing to give there spot up and i see others it worries me who we catter to

Joe Gabris    February 8, 2011 at 2:03am

Fair Smare! Since when are sports meant to be fair? The people who put there time in and practice will always go to the top, it is the way it is supposed to be. Why do people want to get something for nothing? I have only ever heard one maybe two people complaining about it not being fair in any case ever (guess who?). Making it fair in my opinion is for the weak. Practice, get better, make more competition or loose. Impossible to tell what format till the night of? Just what type of scenario wh ... more

Fair Smare! Since when are sports meant to be fair? The people who put there time in and practice will always go to the top, it is the way it is supposed to be. Why do people want to get something for nothing? I have only ever heard one maybe two people complaining about it not being fair in any case ever (guess who?). Making it fair in my opinion is for the weak. Practice, get better, make more competition or loose. Impossible to tell what format till the night of? Just what type of scenario what be perfect for A and B only? Because we have had all sorts of differant people show up from week to week and somehow A,B,and C is still perfect even if it meens moving A pool players into the B pool. Painful how obvious it is why this is the case. Oh well even though competition would be fun sometimes, I have fun so I will continue to be handicapped along with everyone else who practices in the cold and snow to get better.

mike Rabin    February 8, 2011 at 1:55am

when we did the a/b pool players got the chance to play against there own skill level more then the abc, i have alot of love for the ams and i do have fun with abc, but i dont often see the lower level putters step up in cruch time going against the pros, against themselfs they will, theres less pressure when they dont watch gabris hit 8 in a row, and do get that the top ams like urself its tougher on..... the abc isnt broke but the consistant disadvantage we get isnt 100% fair either, and it doesnt leave the ams high and dry like the random draw does

mike Rabin    February 8, 2011 at 1:34am

also last week i was pair with a new player who didnt know the system to well and didnt show up in time, if i get automaticly paired with a c pooler and that creates a mush larger chance in first time players, i feel i should be able to putt 2 on 1, some games go that way as it is, and to take my chance away to try to win or at lease get practice in is wrong, alot of times it takes a game to get a grove and so when i was trying to find it my senond and lost i then am hopeless, also it took away ... more

also last week i was pair with a new player who didnt know the system to well and didnt show up in time, if i get automaticly paired with a c pooler and that creates a mush larger chance in first time players, i feel i should be able to putt 2 on 1, some games go that way as it is, and to take my chance away to try to win or at lease get practice in is wrong, alot of times it takes a game to get a grove and so when i was trying to find it my senond and lost i then am hopeless, also it took away the chance for rich and ted to earn there margin of victory points so if they so happened to go 3-1 with tight games its really unfair for them to. (still love the league and show up as mush as possible)

John Minicuci    February 8, 2011 at 1:28am

As I stated before, it is impossible to tell what format until we see who registers on any given night.

It is even more difficult now that we are going to the first-come, first-serve format.

For reference, I have asked to see it in writing how an A/B or Random Draw is more fair. Nobody has put forth any examples so it is what it is.

Just to reinforce my theory and looking at weeks 9 - week 14 and only the people who have cashed:
A/C Pool = 21
B/B Pool = 17

That isn't fair??? ... more

As I stated before, it is impossible to tell what format until we see who registers on any given night.

It is even more difficult now that we are going to the first-come, first-serve format.

For reference, I have asked to see it in writing how an A/B or Random Draw is more fair. Nobody has put forth any examples so it is what it is.

Just to reinforce my theory and looking at weeks 9 - week 14 and only the people who have cashed:
A/C Pool = 21
B/B Pool = 17

That isn't fair???

Since I am in the B pool and have only won 2 games out of the last 8, no A Pool player is getting any sympathy from me.
The numbers do not lie.
It is $5 for a night out of fun and putting.
If it sucks so bad then how is an A/B pool or Random Draw going to make it any better?
I don't want to keep addressing the complaints and drama.
From now on, if it isn't news or constructive discussion, I probably cannot reply. I spend too many hours trying to make this fun and fair to keep addressing the same topics unless someone brings forth an example of how to make it better. By better I mean for the entire crew, not just the A Pool players.

mike Rabin    February 8, 2011 at 1:27am

the timeing didnt work out well for the b poolers so move them to 25 ft or play to 11, or when we finish our 4th gm rush them to our courts insted of waiting 15 to get any1 on them, john also said there was complaints about less cash for winning but its a fun putting league i dont think u support people in it for more money

Joe Gabris    February 8, 2011 at 12:49am

Mikey isn't it obvious by now why we don't do that? Yes it sucks but it's the truth.

mike Rabin    February 8, 2011 at 12:35am

so are we just 100% abc pool now? i know there was the A and B, and i thought that was now once a month?

Shaun Adkins    February 3, 2011 at 1:34am

if im not happy i will make sure no one else is. i just like to keep things fair.

Mike Walker    February 3, 2011 at 1:10am

shaun,u would ruin everyones fun if u played too.haha.jk.

Shaun Adkins    January 24, 2011 at 10:00pm

i will be there, i will ruin everyones good time if i dont get to play.

Andy Bawol    January 24, 2011 at 9:24pm

You've been there enough weeks that it won't even matter. AFAIK it's still seniority.